Destroying the Diversity & Inclusion Narrative

Julie and Torin are serious about destroying the lame, losing and punitive Diversity and Inclusion narrative while chasing a narrative of ambition and freedom to explore.

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James Ellis: All that Glitters is NOT EB Gold

Julie and Torin have the honor to welcome EB God, James Ellis to the pod. We talk about the good, the bad, and the glitter of the employer brand. Hint: EB Glitter doesn't fix broke cultures, but my idea of broke maybe your idea of heaven. Don't miss this conversation. PREPARE YOURSELF FOR CRAZY AND THE KING!

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