Crazy and The King

Destroying the Diversity & Inclusion Narrative

Julie and Torin are serious about destroying the lame, losing and punitive Diversity and Inclusion narrative while chasing a narrative of ambition and freedom to explore.

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Signature Episode

The CATK Interview: Zach Nunn

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The Team

Julie Sowash

Co-Host
As Executive Director for Disability Solutions, Julie works with federal contractors to successfully engage and retain qualified jobseekers with disabilities.

Torin Ellis

Co-Host
Torin partners with company leaders to identify inhibitors that stall consistent achievement of the diversity, equity, & inclusion objectives achieved through recruitment.