Groom and Groomsmen Style Tips with Hollywood Stylist Joseph Katz

Leah Longbrake:
Joe. I am so excited to have you on Weddings Unveiled today. Thank you so much for being here.

Joe Katz:
Yes. I'm so excited to be here. I've seen so much about it. I saw your beautiful picture of you in a veil with your wine glass. Looks beautiful. Yes.

Leah Longbrake:
Sometimes I just dress up like that and drink wine around the house.

Joe Katz:
Why not? I do too. I put my veil on.

Leah Longbrake:
Wine not, right? I mean, we all should, right?

Joe Katz:
Why not? Yes. On a good Friday night.

Leah Longbrake:
I need a tiara.

Joe Katz:
Yes. The tiara, a glass of wine, you're good to go. Yes.

Leah Longbrake:
We're encouraging this.

Joe Katz:
Yes. Absolutely.

Leah Longbrake:
So, Joe, for those that are maybe not familiar with you, tell us a little bit about yourself.

Joe Katz:
So, Leah, I am a fashion stylist, I'm based in Los Angeles, and I worked for a number of years, and still do, in Beverly Hills, and style people from all over the world. So I worked with clients really from all over, from the Middle East, to London, to Paris, everywhere coming from around the world. And they would come in to Beverly Hills, and I would take them shopping on these luxury excursions. So we'd go in a Rolls Royce, and we'd go up and down Rodeo Drive, kind of that Pretty Woman experience.

Leah Longbrake:
Yeah.

Joe Katz:
Yeah. So we would do things like that. And I did everything from women's fashion, dressing women, to men's suiting, we did weddings. I had people come in for special wedding dresses if they didn't have something specific. Usually people would come in to New York or LA if they're looking for a wedding dress or something like that because the selections are so huge here and in New York.

Joe Katz:
And so, that really has been a lot of what I've done. And then I've contributed to a ton of different TV shows throughout my career, from CNN, to Wall Street Journal, to all different shows, Good Morning America, and talking all about different trends, and style trends, and fashion, to just really how to save money too. So, I always say to people, if you see me on TV, I'm usually trying to save you money, and if you come to Beverly Hills, I'm usually spending all your money. So, either way-

Leah Longbrake:
Best of both worlds.

Joe Katz:
That's right. So whatever you want, I can make it happen, if you want to save or you want to spend.

Leah Longbrake:
And since we're talking groom style, you also have had your own line, and I think you still continue to, of bow ties?

Joe Katz:
I do. Yeah. So if you go to josephkatz.com, that's where we're putting up more really bespoke, there's only about maybe very small selection number of ties because I didn't want it to be mass produced. I mean, you can go right now, which is totally great, I mean, you can go on Amazon, you can go on many of these sites and get ties for $19.99 or $29.99. And sometimes, those are great. They're pre-tied. They're good to go. If you're in a hurry, or, sorry, you're not going to use it again, you can grab it there. But mine are a little bit more for that guy that really loves style. He wants something unique, he wants something that maybe nobody else will have, and he wants a bigger, bolder statement bow tie.

Leah Longbrake:
Yeah. Yeah. They're chic. They're beautiful bow ties.

Joe Katz:
Yes. Thank you. Thank you. They're all Italian. So they're all Italian fabrics, and then we bring the fabrics into the US, and then we hand-make them in the US. So they're all handmade, one by one.

Leah Longbrake:
Oh, that's wonderful. Definitely unique style. And then, of course, you have your podcast. I want to plug that before we get going with groom style. The Katz Walk. Of course.

Joe Katz:
Oh, thank you. That's right. That's right.

Leah Longbrake:
Talk about style and celebrity.

Joe Katz:
Yeah. So I wanted to give people, really... I was so happy to partner with Evergreen because it's really a great way to get the message out. So many times, people see things in People Magazine or Entertainment Tonight, and we just see maybe a glimpse of that celebrity style, or we see them on a TV show, but it's like, "What's really behind?" I feel like you read an article about somebody, but do you really get all the truth about, maybe...

Joe Katz:
I like to learn. You see a show that you love and then you want to learn, really, what is that person that's portraying that character? And then, what is their style, and what do they really love, and how did they grow up, and just things that we just want to know as people. So that's really what my podcast is about, is about really learning about that celebrity style or that influencers style and how to get tips and tricks on how they use things to look their best, little beauty secrets, diet secrets, apple cider vinegar, we learned from one of our influencers.

Leah Longbrake:
Yeah. From Haley.

Joe Katz:
Yes, about what she does to stay trim and thin before her photo shoots. So things like that, I think are really just truthful, and honest, and uncensored.

Leah Longbrake:
And I encourage everyone to go to evergreenpodcasts.com and check it out, subscribe, and follow Joe.

Joe Katz:
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Leah Longbrake:
So groom style, where should we even start? Do you need to have the wedding dress picked out first, the location, is there a timeframe? Where do you really begin with this?

Joe Katz:
So for weddings, I always say that it will depend on where you're going to have it. So if it is going to be an outdoor wedding, it's going to be a beach wedding, whatever the setting is going to be is going to be dependent on what they're going to wear. So typically, if it is going to be a little bit more of a casual, daytime experience and wedding, then the guys typically lean towards the suits and things like that. They lean towards that kind of look.

Joe Katz:
I mean, there's so many different trends that are going on now, but I say more of that slightly more relaxed look. And it does mirror what the bride is wearing as well. But if she's wearing something a little more boho, a little bit more crochet, or something like that, then the guy is not going to be in a tux. He's going to mirror that and compliment it, really.

Joe Katz:
And I say for evening weddings, it's going to be in a beautiful, gorgeous hotel, or it's going to be an evening wedding in a church, then you're going to step up the game. We're going to do something a little bit more like tux. She might wear something a little bit more sparkly, and detailed, and that type of thing. So, yeah. It really does depend, starting with where you're going to start and where it's going to be to what the outfits are going to look like, the dresses and the suits.

Leah Longbrake:
So really, probably find the dress first, unless you want to go groomswear first, then the bride needs to mirror him. So, whoever is being... But really, it's all about the dress.

Joe Katz:
Yeah. The dress is always such a hard thing sometimes. Because the men, I always hate to say it, but it feels like men are just so much easier sometimes, when it comes to pulling stuff, even just in their every day life. But usually, finding that dress that the woman loves, and that it fits right, and that she's just in love with, then working around that. I mean, you can really do it any way, but typically, that has been the standard, and the reason why is because it takes longer to find something that... Because there's so many different styles. I mean, for men, we'll get into it, but I mean, there's only a handful of styles that you choose from. And for the women, there's a gajillion styles that you can choose from.

Leah Longbrake:
That's absolutely true. But for our LGBTQIA listeners, if it's two men-

Joe Katz:
Oh, that's true.

Leah Longbrake:
Who should decide on the suits? Is there a preference? Should they match identical? Should it be slightly different? And should they have their location picked out first, that way they can choose a suit off of that? Or should their location go based off of the look of the suits that they want to do?

Joe Katz:
I would say off the location, because if they're going to be, same with a straight couple, if they're going to be on the beach, or they're going to be in a church, or they're going to be just at more of a casual place, then it's going to be a little bit more of a casual look. But there's some beautiful pictures that I've seen online of two men with these beautiful jewel tone suits, very fitted, very elegant. So there's a lot of really cool options. Yeah.

Leah Longbrake:
And so, they can play off the colors that way too, like similar tones and ties, but slightly different to make each person distinctly themselves.

Joe Katz:
Right, right. And some can be... I saw a beautiful picture of two guys with matching, but it doesn't have to be matching. I mean, with that, you can make it your own. One can wear a similar color palette. So if you're doing a blue, one could wear a darker blue, one could wear a slightly lighter blue. You can play with colors a little bit.

Leah Longbrake:
And with that should the groom and the groomsmen, the bridal party, should they all be in the exact same color and look, or should they vary? Because I know in trends in bridesmaids, the different color dresses or different styles is still very trendy. It's almost become the norm instead of a trend. But how about in groomsmen's fashion?

Joe Katz:
So with groomsmen, I like to see them in a similar color palette that compliments the groom. So let's say, for example, the groomsmen are all in black. The groom, because it's his day, he's the star, he might do a beautiful navy tux or something like that, I think, which would be really beautiful. Or, if we want to keep it all in the same color palette, they could all wear black tuxes, for example, and the groom could wear the black tux, but he would have a different bow tie and cummerbund or different vest.

Joe Katz:
So it just differentiates in that way. So you can kind of play with a little bit, but I don't like it to see like all the groomsmen in maroon and then the groom in like black. It just feels jarring. Right. The colors are so different. Right. So, I like to see a difference a little bit, where it compliments what the groom is wearing.

Leah Longbrake:
Now, you had mentioned that there are a few different kinds of tux and suits, not just there's a tux and there's a suit. So break down for us, what are the different options that we have in menswear?

Joe Katz:
So for men, there are multiple different kinds of suits. So men are probably very used to wearing a notch lapel. Are you familiar with the notch? So the notch lapel is your traditional lapel. It's got a little notch in it, that's why they call it, so it almost looks like a buttonhole, but that's where the notch is. And so they call that the notch lapel. Now, you can do a wider notch lapel, or you can do a slightly thinner notch lapel jacket.

Joe Katz:
And then, there's, of course, the double-breasted jacket. And then there's all different kinds. But the main one that I like, I wrote down one of them that I really wanted to mention, which is the peak lapel. I love the peak lapel. So that's like a wider lapel. And you'll see that sometimes in double-breasted suits, but then they also do it in traditional suits. So those are going to be the various various ones. And you can get that also, in the tuxedo formats as well. So those are going to be the different ways of suiting that you'll be able to choose options from.

Leah Longbrake:
And how important is it? Because I know some guys can look kind of sloppy. I'm just going to be honest. How important do you think it is for tailoring?

Joe Katz:
Tailoring is very, very important. And also, one of the things that men have to keep in mind is about, not every guy, just like women, not every guy is built the same. So if you're tall and thin, if you're tall and stocky, or if you're short and stocky, or just shorter and slim, there's all different body types. So you've got to be able to dress for your body type.

Joe Katz:
So that tall and slim guy is going to be able to wear a double breasted jacket, and it's going to make him look elongated and elegant. It folds over, so it accents. But if you're tall and more stocky, you don't want to wear a double breasted, because that's going to accent the middle part. You want to wear something that's more of a two button or a three button jacket, which kind of creates a more slim, sleek look.

Joe Katz:
So there's various different ways to be able to choose it. But in regards to tailoring, it's very, very important. That's why I always say to guys, if you're going to rent or if you're going to purchase, pick it out at least three to four months. I know that might seem long to some people, but I like to have more time than less time. And it's so much more comfortable to not worry and just go, "I've got everything. I'm set." And some other tips that you want to know when you're picking out the suit is make sure that there's only a quarter inch of the end of the shirt that comes out of the jacket.

Leah Longbrake:
And why is that?

Joe Katz:
Just because that's just the way that... So when the jacket is on, your blazer is on, or your tuxedo jacket is on, it's always customary that a quarter to a half inch of the shirt sleeve comes out, because you don't want it to be too short in the shirt sleeve, but it gives a very clean, sleek look, basically. And then for the jackets, you want to make sure that the jacket covers the butt and that the little pleats on the back, the vents, don't pull.

Joe Katz:
So sometimes, if it's too tight, you're going to see a vent pull, so make sure... And this is all things when you go pick up your tux, or if you rent it, or you buy it, they're going to go through this with you, but just make sure that that's not pulling, make sure that the collar isn't pulling and it feels comfortable, and the shirt should also not be too tight or have a huge gap in the back, where it's loose.

Leah Longbrake:
Oh, yeah. You don't want the gap. Yes. Because even if you have a regular tie on, it's not going to tighten it, it's just going to keep it looking bunchy.

Joe Katz:
Right. Right, right. So it's just really about making sure that everything fits appropriately, so that it's not too tight or it's not too loose, because then that makes everything just looks sloppy, basically.

Leah Longbrake:
And you already mentioned it, but just to reiterate, how soon should the men be getting fitted and ordering their, whether they're renting or buying, their suits?

Joe Katz:
I always say, I like to give more time. So once the bride has picked out the dress, I like to at least give four months. That's probably a little long, but I like a little more time. You can typically do two to three months probably, but people can turn around rentals so quick. But then, if you do do a rental, you want to make sure if you get that, what kind of shape is it? How many times has it been used? Does it look shiny or not elegant? Or does it look... So those are things you want to... So that's why I always like more time, so if you go, "Ah, I want to get a different one."

Leah Longbrake:
And two, if you're a spring wedding, for example, if you're renting, you're going to be competing also, not only with a popular wedding time period for rentals, but proms, also.

Joe Katz:
Right. So you want to make sure that you have enough time. So if you get in four months ahead of time, you're ahead of the game. But three months is probably fine. Once the bride has determined the dress she's going to get, then I would start the process. Even though we all are like, "Ah, I just want to delay. I have time. I have so much time. I've got six months. I've got seven months." But just do it. Get it done.

Leah Longbrake:
It creeps up.

Joe Katz:
It does. And then time flies, and then before you know it, it's like, you don't want to be in a mad rush.

Leah Longbrake:
Right. So what do you think are the pros and cons of renting versus buying?

Joe Katz:
So I always say to people, a lot of times people will say, when I style people even now about, are you going to be going to other black tie events? And if you are, it makes sense to invest in purchasing. Back in the day, I feel like 10 years ago, before we had some of these fast tailor companies that are online, it used to be expensive. It'd be like $1,500, or $1,200 investment in buying a tux, and then going, "Will I ever use it again? Am I going to?"

Joe Katz:
But now, there's companies like, I don't know if you've heard of these companies called Indochino, or Suitsupply, or blacklapel.com. So Indochino is a company that you send in your measurements, or you just take your measurements, you mail it in, and you can get a suit for like $400. Or Suitsupply is very... So, they're very cool. They're all custom. So you're not going to go wrong. And it used to be, we never had that. So it was either rent or spend a lot of money on a very expensive tux that you may not ever use again.

Joe Katz:
So I always say, to answer your question, if you think you're going to be using it for other things, you're going to go to events, or you work for a big company and there's a lot of black ties, or maybe even once a year or twice a year, you're going to use it, then it's worth it to invest a little money and have it. If you really know this is not your thing, you're not going to be using this again, then I go towards the rental and getting a nice rental.

Joe Katz:
But I would say to your audience, is definitely look at those fast, custom made suit companies, because they're reasonable. I mean, you spend maybe a couple hundred more if you can, but if you can't, then opt for the rental. But if you can spend $400 or $450, then you get one that you'd have forever and you get to keep it.

Leah Longbrake:
That's great. So the timeframe in ordering, would you say it's about the same as well, if, say, you're wearing, maybe in addition to the suit or separate, a cultural piece? For example, my husband is Irish, they wore kilts. Many Irish and Scottish weddings, the gentlemen do that. Indian weddings, Asian culture, there's different things that they wear to honor their tradition. Would it be the same timeframe to make and order that piece, or do you think it's just based off of that specific cultural attire?

Joe Katz:
Yeah, definitely. You mean to start thinking about it and ordering it? Yeah. Especially with those cultural pieces, it might even take longer. So I would even add in... I just always think planning ahead like that is always so important, just because, for me, I just hate the pressure of, "It's got to be done now and we have 24 hours." I like the ability to go, "I have some time. This isn't available, or this fabric." Because you don't know about fabrics, if they're available. For example, we would run into issues, like Italy will shut down for the summer. They'll shut down for a month and a half or something. So it's like, now we just ran into that. We needed to get something before that. So there are different things depending on where your fabrics are coming from. So I always err on the side of doing more time, giving yourself much more time, and especially with the cultural pieces or specialty pieces. Yeah.

Leah Longbrake:
Yeah, definitely. So it's becoming more and more common to have someone of the opposite gender as part of the opposite bridal party. So we're seeing more men on the girls' side and girls on the guys' side, how can we incorporate, if there's a female standing up on the groom side, how can she tie in with the groomsmen?

Joe Katz:
So for her, let's say the groomsmen are all wearing black tuxes, or they're all wearing navy blue tuxes, or something like that, or even gray suits. You don't want her, if it's, let's say for example, all black tuxes for her to be in a maroon dress or a yellow dress. It would just be... Anything is possible. You could do whatever you want, any signature style. But if you want it to look elegant and uniform, if they're all, let's say, in gray tuxes, for her to be in a beautiful shade of gray, it doesn't have to be the exact same shade that they're in, but a version of that color, I think that would be beautiful. And it would be something, she probably wouldn't want to be in something like a big, poofy, gray dress, because then that would be like, now she's the star of the groomsmen.

Leah Longbrake:
Right. No one takes away from the bride, either.

Joe Katz:
Right. So you'd want her to be in something just elegant. It could be something form fitting. It could be something that's a little bit not as form fitting, depending on her body type. I'm a real advocate to really dressing for the body type. So women have all different types of bodies. Men have all different types of bodies. So it really depends on what they wear, but color palette wise, to fall in to that same color palette that the guys are wearing.

Leah Longbrake:
So you don't have to wear a suit unless it's what you want to do.

Joe Katz:
Right. Right. No, she doesn't have to wear a suit. No, because I think as long as she follows within that color palette, I feel like that's the most important, truly.

Leah Longbrake:
So let's talk accessorizing. I mean, obviously, bow ties, but what are the different ways that grooms can a snaz up their look?

Joe Katz:
Yeah. So I mean, some of the different things are, obviously the boutonnières, we'll have something, we'll do something with maybe the cufflinks, which are subtle, but the cummerbunds could be very interesting to accessorize. The vests are definitely an accessory to an extent. Also, you can add a little bit of, I'm not a real advocate of crazy socks, but I think a little polka dot sock or something like that, a very nice little subtle touch could be really cool. Because if the guys are wearing similar shoes, the sock has a little bit of a unique flare to it.

Joe Katz:
But those little touches, that cummerbund, the vest, maybe the cufflinks, the bow tie, right? So it could be a slightly bigger bow tie. It could be a slightly smaller. It could be more of a very straight bow tie across. It could be an oversized wing bow tie. There's so many different ways to play around with it. Yeah. And I would say those are probably going to be the keys to little bits of touches that are a little bit different.

Leah Longbrake:
What are some trends that we're seeing in suits going into 2021?

Joe Katz:
We're seeing that peak lapel, that wide lapel is trending. Typically, it was much more on the double-breasted suit, but we're seeing that, with some of the designers, Tom Ford is putting it on traditional jackets, just regular, straight jackets, not double-breasted. And then we're seeing color trends. So we're seeing, coming into 2021 for spring, we're seeing almost this light linen color, we're seeing a turquoisey blue color coming, jewel tones are happening. Color is happening a little bit more for guys. So you don't always have to go with that traditional black tux if you don't want. Or also, a texture jacket. I don't know if you've seen. Tom Ford has...

Leah Longbrake:
With the velvet?

Joe Katz:
It's a velvet, or he'll do a paisley. It's a very rich paisley. It could be a black background with a blue, almost, rich paisley, and then a black lapel. So if the groom wants to zhuzh it up and have something a little bit more, we're seeing that textured jacket that just is different for more of that guy that wants something non-traditional, but very stylish.

Leah Longbrake:
Very cool. Is there anything else that we haven't mentioned that you think that we should know for grooms and groomsmen style?

Joe Katz:
Let me see. Just, I think, what we talked about. I think making sure the sizes are correct. Also, I wrote down some things that I always tell guys, too. Make sure that the shoulders are close to the body, they're not constricting. That's very important. Sleeves, like I said, should be long enough for about a quarter of an inch to show through the jacket length, so always keep that in mind. And that you can always put your... So when you've got your jacket on, for the guys, make sure that, at the base of your thumbs, that's where the jacket should fall, the bottom of the jacket should fall at the base of your thumbs. So if it's shorter than the base of your thumbs, it's too short, and if it's longer than the base of your thumbs, it's too long.

Leah Longbrake:
Get to your tailor.

Joe Katz:
Yeah. Go to your tailor. Yeah. But these are things that, whether you rent, or you purchase, or whatever, these are things that they're going to be able to measure you appropriately. But it's always good to have in the back of your mind, because when they're doing it, you're going to be, in the back of your mind, thinking, "Hmm. Is this going to hit where my thumbs fall?" And if it does, then you know you're on the right track. But I just say, always wear something that you feel comfortable in.

Joe Katz:
Because when I style people, if I put them in a texture jacket and they're a very traditional person, they're not going to feel comfortable and they're not going to feel comfortable in it. Same with women. And so, you don't want to wear something just because maybe it's trending or whatever it is. You want to make sure that you feel good in it. Because when you feel good in it, you'll show up and you'll feel confident. It gives you confidence.

Leah Longbrake:
So I almost forgot this, and I can't believe it, because one of my favorite things in the entire world is shoes. I love shoes. Is there any key things that we should know about picking out your shoes for your suit?

Joe Katz:
That's a good... I mean, traditionally, I mean, there are... So, I love a very modern, sleek, black shoe. I mean, one of my favorites is the Prada. They have a beautiful lace up. But now, a lot of, even the rental companies have shoes that follow the trends. But again, don't do anything dated, where it was that square toe. Make sure you stay away from that. Try to follow more of a modern contemporary look.

Joe Katz:
If you go with the traditional black shoe that's a patent leather, it doesn't always have to be your traditional patent leather if you're wearing a tux. Of course, if you're wearing the suit, then I wouldn't do, obviously, the patent leather. That's much more for the dressy. But do a very beautiful, polished shoe. I love a lace-up, but a slip on shoe is great. But again, that is going to be personal taste, too, and how it coordinates with the suit or the tux that you're wearing. And that's why sometimes it always helps get the bride's input a little bit too, because what she thinks looks good on you is always important.

Joe Katz:
If you have a stylist, hey, that's even better, because then we'll do it for you. But I love shoes too. So there's so many amazing brands. I mean, it's great now, because you could go to the very high end, which is the Christian Louboutin shoes for men that they have, and to the more affordable ranges that... People make so many great knockoffs of some of those shoes that are affordable, like 80 bucks, 100 bucks, something like that.

Leah Longbrake:
And it's something that you could re-wear again.

Joe Katz:
Yeah, totally. Totally. Yeah. So it's something that you can keep for different occasions, definitely.

Leah Longbrake:
And it's okay if you want to wear your chucks or your cowboy boots.

Joe Katz:
Yeah. If it goes with the theme, right? I mean, if it goes with the theme of what the wedding is, I'm talking more, I guess, more of those traditional kind of-

Leah Longbrake:
The classic.

Joe Katz:
Yeah. The classics, but absolutely.

Leah Longbrake:
I love the classic look.

Joe Katz:
Yeah. If it's a theme, for sure. If it's got that boot vibe to it, you can definitely wear that. There's a lot of very cool, all different theme wedding styles that I think are awesome. Yeah.

Leah Longbrake:
So, because you're obviously a Hollywood stylist, I'm a fellow celebrity nerd, I have to pick your brain on two celebrity things before I let you go.

Joe Katz:
Okay.

Leah Longbrake:
Okay. The first one is, who do you think in Hollywood, could be dead or alive, who do you think rocks a suit the best?

Joe Katz:
Oh boy. Gosh. I'm trying to think now. You know who does... Oh gosh. Now I'm going to forget everybody. His name is Rami.

Leah Longbrake:
Rami Malek from Mr. Robot?

Joe Katz:
Yeah. Rami Malek. Yes. When I saw him on the carpet a couple of times, he just... I don't know. He's not super tall, but he just... I don't know. There were some of his suits, he just looked so beautiful on the carpet for the Oscars. Yeah. So, I loved his particular style. He's a little bit more edge, but not crazy.

Leah Longbrake:
Well, he did play Freddie Mercury.

Joe Katz:
Yeah, which is super edgy. Yeah. But I loved some of the tuxes he wore and suits he's worn on the carpet.

Leah Longbrake:
Very cool. Mine's George Clooney.

Joe Katz:
Oh, George Clooney. Yeah.

Leah Longbrake:
To me, he's just royalty.

Joe Katz:
Yeah. He is. He is. He is. There's so many now, and people are rocking it all different ways. But, yeah. No, he's terrific. He's such an icon and classic. Yeah.

Leah Longbrake:
And then the last one is, what is your all-time favorite celebrity wedding or wedding dress?

Joe Katz:
Ooh, celebrity wedding or wedding dress? I'm trying to think. I have to look at more things. I'm going to have to think about that.

Leah Longbrake:
Well, you're going to come back, so we can revisit this.

Joe Katz:
Yeah. We'll revisit that. I'll have to think about it, because there's so many different ones that I'm trying to remember who I saw who had some amazing... I mean, there's so many different... Some are just so elaborate and so amazing, and then some are very sleek, like that very mermaid kind of vibe, which I think is gorgeous as well. Who's your favorite?

Leah Longbrake:
All time is Cindy Crawford to Rande Gerber.

Joe Katz:
Oh, really?

Leah Longbrake:
She wore that little off the rack. I think it was Armani. I'll have to go back and look. Just little white slip dress, natural, beachy, wavy hair and makeup, barefoot. He had on the white button up linen shirt and black pants. They got married on the beach. Very simple. That's what I thought I was going to have, but I ended up with a high-low at a brewery. So I love that wedding.

Joe Katz:
Oh, you like casual like that? A little bit more beachy?

Leah Longbrake:
I mean, I love elaborate weddings as well. A recent guest, she brought up Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy to JFK Jr. And talk about a modern classic in that Narciso Rodriguez. I also love Brooke Shields' wedding to Andre Agassi. That was also very nineties. And I notice that that cut of her dress is coming back in style, the square cut. I think hers was Carolina Herrera, but yeah, those are...

Joe Katz:
Oh, that's cool. That's very cool. Yeah. There's so many now. And now it's in the designs change, and it's like, "Do you want to go for more of that real beaded and real detailed, or do you want to just go for more of just a beautiful cut and not as much of the beading?" There's so many different choices, so yeah, that's awesome.

Leah Longbrake:
Yeah. That's the fun of it.

Joe Katz:
Yeah.

Leah Longbrake:
Well, Joe, thank you so much for being with us today. How can we get more information about you?

Joe Katz:
So you can go to josephkatz.com, and that is where all my info is and my website. You can email me, or joseph_katz on Instagram. And yeah, I'd love to, if you have any questions or need any help, I am around to help.

Leah Longbrake:
And Joe will be back with us soon to discuss guest attire. So whether you are going to be a guest at a wedding this season, or if you just want to know what the guest trends are, we're going to discuss that and how to decode the different dress codes.

Joe Katz:
Yeah. There's a lot of decoding that has to go on, and you have to understand what would be the best thing to wear. So it's always good to have a guideline or outline of when you get that invitation and thinking about what you're going to wear. So, awesome.

Leah Longbrake:
Well, thanks, Joe. And we'll see you soon.

Joe Katz:
Yeah. All right. Thanks Leah.