Making The Most of The Time We Have

Join author, educator, and learner, Annmarie Kelly as she laughs, cries, and kvetches with the writers, musicians, entrepreneurs, and wanderers who inspire all of us to reach beyond our divisions and discover what it means to be wild, precious, and brave.

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Never Run Out of Stories with Rebecca Makkai

Never Run Out of Stories with Rebecca Makkai

Rebecca Makkai is the author of Pulitzer Prize finalist, THE GREAT BELIEVERS, which tells the story of the AIDS epidemic in Chicago. Rebecca and Annmarie talk about the parallels and differences between battling Covid today and fighting HIV in the 1980s, as well as the lessons we can all learn about how to live and love in the face of fear.

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Books and other writing by Rebecca Makkai:

The Borrower

The Hundred-Year House

Music for Wartime

The Great Believers

“They Were Warriors”

Other writers whose work we reference:

The Complete Stories of Flannery O’Connor

This Is the Story of a Happy Marriage, by Ann Patchett

Bird by Bird, by Anne Lamott

The Haunting of Hill House, by Shirley Jackson

“Another Suitcase in Another Hall,” from Evita

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